Monday, April 9, 2012

Did YHVH forsake Yeshua?

The Father NEVER Forsook Yeshua Christ (The annointed one)
Psalm 22Many rationalize Matt.27:46 out of context to say God forsook Christ. Such views don't find were all the scriptures agree.

Matt.27:46- "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

Christ was quoting Ps.22! This is obvious when comparing it to the other areas that describe the crusifixtion! Matt.27:46 = Ps.22:1 There is further evidence he went on to quote the whole Psalm of David when reading the many areas that tell about the crusifixtion.

God said he will neither leave nor forsake us (his sheep)-Deut.31:6,8/ Heb.13:5/ Josh 1:5
Ps. 22 was in David's words, yet inspired by God. David was describing his emotional/ physical state in personal trials, later quoted by Christ on the cross and it was a detailed discription of the events during the crusifixtion! (joints being pulled out of socket, effects of fluid loss, the approach of physical death, the on lookers, piercing of the body, casting lots for his garments, we get a discription of the passover sacrifice, giving up the Spirit with faith, and ends with the fact that these events would be passed down to the following generations, and It is finished) All these things are clear in the Hebrew of Psalm 22 and later a part of the description throughout the Gospel.

Prophacy was being fulfilled & quoted before all those there to witness the crusifixtion! This is how effective Christ was to those who embraced the Truth. Yes in Matt. 27 the qoute was interupted in verse 47 after quoting Ps.22:1 inorder to show the current mood and to record yet went on to document that these prophacies were being fulfilled! Note the areas in the Nt that go hand and hand with Ps.22! Note how to find the Greek and English equivalent to the Hebrew!

___________Check 4 yourself______________
*****/Ps.22=/ Matt.27:45-50 = Mk.15:33-37 = Lk.23:44-46 = Jn.19:28-30 ****

Also, Note Christ ALWAYS said Father when speaking to him NOT "my God"!
Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

**2nd Cor.5:21**-"/ Study for yourself!

"For he hath made (Bare) him (to BE) sin FOR us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him."- KJV

First off ("TO BE") was added to the text! It would have been more appropreate if it were (OVERCOME) instead of Be in this case either way to be is not in the manuscripts.

* The Greek word used (Huper #5228) where the term "FOR" is means: in behalf of, for the sake of, over, above, beyond, Instead, reguarding, Superior to,more than, In behafe of, chiefest,concerning,...! (Heb.2:14)
* The Greek term translated "made" in this verse is poieo (#4160), among the definitions you will find: Bear, be, fulfil, give, have, have purged, put, take, gain, work, + transgress the law, observe.... (1 Cor.5:6-7)

(Bullinger says the Greek here should be translated "him Who knew not sin, for us He MADE (bare/have purged /emphasis mine/) sin"/ You may or may not want to consider this translation but it agrees with the manuscripts and all proper translation in context)
Just minus the added text it reads: "For He hath Made (taken upon) him sin For (in the behafe of) us who knew no sin, That we might be made the righteousness of God in him"

We Know in Biblical (Jewish/ temple) rituals that the sacrifices and or escape goats took on the sins of the people and the effects thereof, but this is different than the concept of them becoming the sin (Spiritual /Physical). Thus Yeshua Christ became our Passover Sacrifice that we may have victory over death, by Grace (unmerited favor). Many seek to complicate the verse
1 Peter 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

The Lamb / Without blemish "who knew no sin" /
1 Corinthians 5:7
Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

2 Corinthians 5:19 (Emmanuel)
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Jas.1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
Rom.6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
God is a God of Law. Death was a price (effect/ curse) to be paid for our sins. Christ became our Passover Sacrifice for he was the only one able to overcome death. This was God's intention of the 1st Advent the entire time. Christ came to do the Will of his Father.(Deut.21:23 / Gal.3:13)
Lev.16(:21-22) There we read of how the iniquities of the children of Israel where (carried by) put upon (Spiritually speaking) a lamb. (in context) The Lamb did not become sin, it stood in the place of the children so that the effects of such iniquities would passover (Just as the lamb that took the place of Jacob) (and the Lamb's blood that made the death angel Passover- in Egypt). This is a spiritual concept that is given in a way that one can picture and understand that there is a need for the Mercy of God and that a sacrifice be made. Some seek to have you believe The Annointed One- was "made to be sin" in a literal way and was forsaken of which even perverts the context of the Godhead. A very different picture of Emmanuel than that which is properly understood within the proper context of the Word.
Christ knew the crusifixtion was coming.
Christ felt no need to plead for his life before men! Is.53:7 / Mark 15:4,5 (Lk.23:28)
Ps.23:4-"/Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me./"

Ps.22:24-"/For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard./" (Lk.23:46)

Matt.10:28-"/And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." (Heb.5:7)
Matt.6:10 Christ came to do the Will (works) of YHVH (The Father)
(Matt.26:36-46/ Mk.14:32-42/ Lk.22:40-46)
Matt.26:39- We are all responceable for the crusifixtion and our trangressions brought this on.Matt.26:42

What cup is this? The Last cup of the passover is The Cup of Acceptance! This is the cup that Christ told his disciples he would not drink with them until he did so in The Kingdom (4th cup at Passover) Matt.26:27/ Mk.14:25(Acts 10:41).
When The cup of wrath is poured out one wants to be found accepted of God. Rev.14:10 / Rev.16:19/ If Christ would have set up the kingdom at the first advent this cup would have already been poured out and the cup of acceptance would have already been issued as well. Christ took the wrath of God for our sins and over came death so that we can partake of the cup of acceptance.

1 Jn 5:7 Three basic offices of devine judgement.

Rightly divide God's Word. study for yourself

John 10:15-18
As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. (Jn.12:27-28)

Luke 24:25-26 (King James Version)

25Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:

26Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?

(Luke 24:15)

38And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?

39Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

44And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

46And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

47And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

48And ye are witnesses of these things.

49And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.

John 15:13
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
Isaiah 53:6 (King James Version)
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
Christ was the only sinless one.
Laying the iniquity of us all on him isn't the same as saying he became our iniquity! This is a simple truth. Note all the offerings were to be free of any blemish. To say Christ was unclean and became sin who knew no sin isn't understanding renealed by the Spirit of truth, but rather a mistranslation and clouded view of the simplicity within 2nd Cor.5:21 in which I have already shown the proper context which agrees with all scripture and proper translation!
To Overcome (huper) sin /NOT/ to be(huper) sin.

He Knew no sin/ He wasn't involved in Sin/ He took on the effects of Our sin/ He OVERCAME sin.

Christ took on our transgressions but that is far from being a transgression.☧ Christ did not become our transgression (downfall), Rather he took on (OVERCAME) our sins which is what the verse is saying in proper translation.

To embrace the other context would be un-Christian, un-Scriptural, and I feel is the fruit of another spirit attempting to add to the Word of God.

Can't have it boths ways, which one is it Christ was made to be sin or Christ was made to Overcome sin by taking on our transgressions?

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Gal.3:19-(20)-29/ John 1:14-18/ Christ overcame because he was sinless not because he was sin.Those who say Christ became sin then add unto it to say that YHVH forsook him would be denying a promise that The Almighty Father made to his people. That he would neither leave nor forsake them. Heb.13:5/ Deut.31:6,8/ Josh 1:5/ Heb.13:5/ Is.53:3-4

Many paraphrase scripture to say :"God CAN"T look upon sin". I dont agree with this interpretation of Is.59:2/ Ps.5:4-5/ or Ex.33:20
Proverbs 15:3 The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.
Rather i see that rebellion is to stray from God and thus the effects are that his protection is lifted as well as his communion with such a one. Not That he "CAN'T" look upon them.
These same people point to 2 Cor.5:21 to say God turned away from Christ at the cross. I Do not accept this view of The Most High and see it as blasphemous and of the spirit of antichrist.
Is.53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

Jn.8:29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him. (Christ speaking)
Acts 2:30 / David was a prophet

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