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Monday, April 9, 2012

Did YHVH forsake Yeshua?

The Father NEVER Forsook Yeshua Christ (The annointed one)
Psalm 22Many rationalize Matt.27:46 out of context to say God forsook Christ. Such views don't find were all the scriptures agree.

Matt.27:46- "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

Christ was quoting Ps.22! This is obvious when comparing it to the other areas that describe the crusifixtion! Matt.27:46 = Ps.22:1 There is further evidence he went on to quote the whole Psalm of David when reading the many areas that tell about the crusifixtion.

God said he will neither leave nor forsake us (his sheep)-Deut.31:6,8/ Heb.13:5/ Josh 1:5
Ps. 22 was in David's words, yet inspired by God. David was describing his emotional/ physical state in personal trials, later quoted by Christ on the cross and it was a detailed discription of the events during the crusifixtion! (joints being pulled out of socket, effects of fluid loss, the approach of physical death, the on lookers, piercing of the body, casting lots for his garments, we get a discription of the passover sacrifice, giving up the Spirit with faith, and ends with the fact that these events would be passed down to the following generations, and It is finished) All these things are clear in the Hebrew of Psalm 22 and later a part of the description throughout the Gospel.

Prophacy was being fulfilled & quoted before all those there to witness the crusifixtion! This is how effective Christ was to those who embraced the Truth. Yes in Matt. 27 the qoute was interupted in verse 47 after quoting Ps.22:1 inorder to show the current mood and to record yet went on to document that these prophacies were being fulfilled! Note the areas in the Nt that go hand and hand with Ps.22! Note how to find the Greek and English equivalent to the Hebrew!

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*****/Ps.22=/ Matt.27:45-50 = Mk.15:33-37 = Lk.23:44-46 = Jn.19:28-30 ****

Also, Note Christ ALWAYS said Father when speaking to him NOT "my God"!
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**(Heb.2:14)***
Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;


**2nd Cor.5:21**-"/ Study for yourself!

"For he hath made (Bare) him (to BE) sin FOR us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him."- KJV

First off ("TO BE") was added to the text! It would have been more appropreate if it were (OVERCOME) instead of Be in this case either way to be is not in the manuscripts.

* The Greek word used (Huper #5228) where the term "FOR" is means: in behalf of, for the sake of, over, above, beyond, Instead, reguarding, Superior to,more than, In behafe of, chiefest,concerning,...! (Heb.2:14)
* The Greek term translated "made" in this verse is poieo (#4160), among the definitions you will find: Bear, be, fulfil, give, have, have purged, put, take, gain, work, + transgress the law, observe.... (1 Cor.5:6-7)



(Bullinger says the Greek here should be translated "him Who knew not sin, for us He MADE (bare/have purged /emphasis mine/) sin"/ You may or may not want to consider this translation but it agrees with the manuscripts and all proper translation in context)
Just minus the added text it reads: "For He hath Made (taken upon) him sin For (in the behafe of) us who knew no sin, That we might be made the righteousness of God in him"



We Know in Biblical (Jewish/ temple) rituals that the sacrifices and or escape goats took on the sins of the people and the effects thereof, but this is different than the concept of them becoming the sin (Spiritual /Physical). Thus Yeshua Christ became our Passover Sacrifice that we may have victory over death, by Grace (unmerited favor). Many seek to complicate the verse
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1 Peter 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

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The Lamb / Without blemish "who knew no sin" /
1 Corinthians 5:7
Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

2 Corinthians 5:19 (Emmanuel)
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Jas.1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
Rom.6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
God is a God of Law. Death was a price (effect/ curse) to be paid for our sins. Christ became our Passover Sacrifice for he was the only one able to overcome death. This was God's intention of the 1st Advent the entire time. Christ came to do the Will of his Father.(Deut.21:23 / Gal.3:13)
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Lev.16(:21-22) There we read of how the iniquities of the children of Israel where (carried by) put upon (Spiritually speaking) a lamb. (in context) The Lamb did not become sin, it stood in the place of the children so that the effects of such iniquities would passover (Just as the lamb that took the place of Jacob) (and the Lamb's blood that made the death angel Passover- in Egypt). This is a spiritual concept that is given in a way that one can picture and understand that there is a need for the Mercy of God and that a sacrifice be made. Some seek to have you believe The Annointed One- was "made to be sin" in a literal way and was forsaken of which even perverts the context of the Godhead. A very different picture of Emmanuel than that which is properly understood within the proper context of the Word.
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Christ knew the crusifixtion was coming.
Christ felt no need to plead for his life before men! Is.53:7 / Mark 15:4,5 (Lk.23:28)
Ps.23:4-"/Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me./"

Ps.22:24-"/For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard./" (Lk.23:46)

Matt.10:28-"/And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." (Heb.5:7)
Matt.6:10 Christ came to do the Will (works) of YHVH (The Father)
(Matt.26:36-46/ Mk.14:32-42/ Lk.22:40-46)
Matt.26:39- We are all responceable for the crusifixtion and our trangressions brought this on.Matt.26:42

What cup is this? The Last cup of the passover is The Cup of Acceptance! This is the cup that Christ told his disciples he would not drink with them until he did so in The Kingdom (4th cup at Passover) Matt.26:27/ Mk.14:25(Acts 10:41).
When The cup of wrath is poured out one wants to be found accepted of God. Rev.14:10 / Rev.16:19/ If Christ would have set up the kingdom at the first advent this cup would have already been poured out and the cup of acceptance would have already been issued as well. Christ took the wrath of God for our sins and over came death so that we can partake of the cup of acceptance.

1 Jn 5:7 Three basic offices of devine judgement.
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Rightly divide God's Word. study for yourself

John 10:15-18
As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. (Jn.12:27-28)


Luke 24:25-26 (King James Version)

25Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:

26Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?

(Luke 24:15)

38And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?

39Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

44And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

46And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

47And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

48And ye are witnesses of these things.

49And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.


John 15:13
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
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Isaiah 53:6 (King James Version)
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
Christ was the only sinless one.
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Laying the iniquity of us all on him isn't the same as saying he became our iniquity! This is a simple truth. Note all the offerings were to be free of any blemish. To say Christ was unclean and became sin who knew no sin isn't understanding renealed by the Spirit of truth, but rather a mistranslation and clouded view of the simplicity within 2nd Cor.5:21 in which I have already shown the proper context which agrees with all scripture and proper translation!
To Overcome (huper) sin /NOT/ to be(huper) sin.

He Knew no sin/ He wasn't involved in Sin/ He took on the effects of Our sin/ He OVERCAME sin.

Christ took on our transgressions but that is far from being a transgression.☧ Christ did not become our transgression (downfall), Rather he took on (OVERCAME) our sins which is what the verse is saying in proper translation.

To embrace the other context would be un-Christian, un-Scriptural, and I feel is the fruit of another spirit attempting to add to the Word of God.

Can't have it boths ways, which one is it Christ was made to be sin or Christ was made to Overcome sin by taking on our transgressions?

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;


Gal.3:19-(20)-29/ John 1:14-18/ Christ overcame because he was sinless not because he was sin.Those who say Christ became sin then add unto it to say that YHVH forsook him would be denying a promise that The Almighty Father made to his people. That he would neither leave nor forsake them. Heb.13:5/ Deut.31:6,8/ Josh 1:5/ Heb.13:5/ Is.53:3-4

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Many paraphrase scripture to say :"God CAN"T look upon sin". I dont agree with this interpretation of Is.59:2/ Ps.5:4-5/ or Ex.33:20
Proverbs 15:3 The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.
Rather i see that rebellion is to stray from God and thus the effects are that his protection is lifted as well as his communion with such a one. Not That he "CAN'T" look upon them.
These same people point to 2 Cor.5:21 to say God turned away from Christ at the cross. I Do not accept this view of The Most High and see it as blasphemous and of the spirit of antichrist.
Is.53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

Jn.8:29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him. (Christ speaking)
Acts 2:30 / David was a prophet

Vows & Oaths

It is important that people know that a vow carries much weight and bring forth effects according to weather one keeps a vow or breaks it. Broken vows cause conflict, not something Christ is looking for in his bride.
Numbers 30:1-2 (KJV)
1And Moses spake unto the heads of the tribes concerning the children of Israel, saying, This is the thing which the LORD hath commanded.
2If a man vow a vow unto the LORD, or swear an oath to bind his soul with a bond; he shall not break his word, he shall do according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth.
Deuteronomy 23:21-22
21When thou shalt vow a vow unto the LORD thy God, thou shalt not slack to pay it: for the LORD thy God will surely require it of thee; and it would be sin in thee.
22But if thou shalt forbear to vow, it shall be no sin in thee.
It is better not to make a vow than to make one and fail to keep your part. This will "surely" bring forth chastisement. Therefore if you seek to make a vow dont make it a challenge unto yourself.
Matthew 5:33-37
33Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:
34But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: (/Jas.5:12/ Is.66:1)
35Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. (/Ps.48:2)
36Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
37But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
*Ecclesiastes 5:4-7 *
4When thou vowest a vow unto God, defer not to pay it; for he hath no pleasure in fools: pay that which thou hast vowed.
5Better is it that thou shouldest not vow, than that thou shouldest vow and not pay.
6Suffer not thy mouth to cause thy flesh to sin; neither say thou before the angel, that it was an error: wherefore should God be angry at thy voice, and destroy the work of thine hands?
7For in the multitude of dreams and many words there are also divers vanities: but fear thou God.
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(error- Hebrew# 7683:a mistake or inadvertent transgression: - error, in ignorance, at unawares, unwittingly.)

1 Jn.1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1 Jn.2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
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Proverbs 20:25
25It is a snare to the man who devoureth that which is holy, and after vows to make enquiry.
Proverbs 6:2
2Thou art snared with the words of thy mouth, thou art taken with the words of thy mouth.
Leviticus 19:12
12And ye shall not swear by my name falsely, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.
Matthew 15:11,18/ Matt.7:20/ 1 Corinthians 3:13/ Acts 5:3-4/ Matt.23:16
God's Word is truth and he holds us to our word as well.

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There are standards to be met for one to recieve blessings and chastisement too is an effect of ones actions and or spiritual embrace. It is best to live under Grace (unmerited favor) than to bring forth more requirements of yourself to show thyself approved. You can not of yourself acheive victory over the grave or the Law.
A part of repentance is often to accept the punishment of your actions and or spiritual embrace. We are never to blame God neither for temptation or for bad happenings. We bring things on ourselves, and we are not yet living in the kingdom.
Warning:
Jer. 23 says to NEVER say the burden of the Lord (to blame God). In this area we are told of the effects for such. (Jer.23:39-40) > 1) God will forget utterly Forget you 2) Forsake you 3) Cast You out of his presence 4) bring an EVERLASTING Reproach and Perpetual Shame upon you that shall not be forgotten.
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Luke 12:10 (11-12) And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.
Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Mark 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.
Matthew 12:25-30 / 1 Jn.5:16/ Mark 13:11/
(Revelation 22:18/ Acts 2:4-6)

The unpardonable sin consists of knowing better
Knowing better:
* Luke 12:47-48/* 2 Peter 2:21/ Jer.4:22/ (Rom. 16:17-19/ Jer.5:21-23 suggest spirit of slumber study/ Rom. 11:8/Is. 29:10-13/some are given the spirit of slumber for a good reason)
Luke 23:34
Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
Also note how the pulpit will be judged first!
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Christ became our Passover (sacrifice) and Sabbath (rest) by which salvation is open to whomsoever shall be drawn to it (Jn.6:44)! Yet if one rejects the mercy of the Almighty they don't recieve it (simple enough?). God keeps His promises and shall hold us to ours.
1 John 1:9
9If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
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The tourment of the lake of fire (just prior to perishing/ 2nd death) is the realization of truth. (That such spirits were gulity and rejected the blueprint for forgiveness/life. (also suggest blog: "Our Words")

Son Of God



Ps.2:6-7

Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. (Ex.4:21-23/ Hosea 11:1)

Here we have the LORD speaking through David. David is the physical king of Israel /1 Chronicles 11:1/ 2 Sam.5), David is being used to "declare the decree".. Israel is the son of God (represented in King Messiah and King David). While every mention of "Servant" in Isaiah can be related to Israel (The nation) or Jacob, in a Hebraic context we have the Word "servant" also relate to (examples): David (Is.37:35), Isaiah (Is.20:3), Messiah (42:1; 65:8)

Ex.4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:



Kingdom (Israel)- consists of a king and his dominion.



Israel has been given foreshadows throughout the Word to observe. King David spoke of the authority of Mashiach (Messiah). Messiah is The King that will issue in The Kingdom of YHVH.



Matt.22:41-46

While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The son of David. He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? If David then call him Lord, how is he his son? And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions. (Mk.12:36/ Lk.20:42-43/ Acts 2:29,30,34/ Acts 13:33/ Ps.110:1)



Messiah is called the only begotten son of GOD. How do we apply this to Israel being the son of God? Mashiach is The King of the dominion which is Israel. They are echad (H#259 /unified One/ Gen.2:24), for we are told messiah is the bridesgroom of Israel.

Where Israel broke the coveneant Messiah fulfilled it! Messiah is the resTORAHation of Israel. This is evident when the Law (Torah) gives the judgement (effect) of (spiritual) adultry/ Lev.20:10(idolatry).





Spiritual Adultry (Idolatry) of:

Israel

Jer.3:8 (divorce)/ (Hosea 4-8) Hosea 4:12-19 (15)/

Judah

Jer.3:8, Jer.5, Jer.10, Jer.16, Jer.17



Only the death of the mate could free one from the vow made with The Lord (Heb.9:16-17). Messiah died so that Israel could be free from thier transgression (and thus be restored to God's grace). The wage of sin is death thus Messiah (King of Israel) fulfills the Passover sacrifice (1 Cor.5:6-8).



Many that seem to only think literally may struggle with the concept of Messiah being the only begotten son when Israel is mentioned as the son of God as well (even with the documentation that they are One (echad).

"Begotten" isn't limited to the context of the outcome of physical sex. (Hebrew #3439) When used in the figurative the word yalad can mean to raise up, or resurrect. This use of the literal is called Anthropopatheia (compare to Acts 13:33/ Ps.2:6-7/ Rom.1:3,4/ Col.1:18/ Rev.1:5....)/ (II Sam. 7:14/ Ps. 89:27)

Messiah Is Torah. Torah is the foundation.

Son is the Hebrew:

Ben H# 1121

From H1129; a son (as a builder of the house/carries family name /Character of the Father), in the widest sense (of literal and figurative relationship, including grandson, subject, nation, quality or condition, etc., (like H1,H251, etc.): - + afflicted, age, [Ahoh-] [Ammon-] [Hachmon-] [Lev-]ite, [anoint-]ed one, appointed to, (+) arrow, [Assyr-] [Babylon-] [Egypt-] [Grec-]ian, one born, bough, branch, breed, + (young) bullock, + (young) calf, X came up in, child, colt, X common, X corn, daughter, X of first, + firstborn, foal, + very fruitful, + postage, X in, + kid, + lamb, (+) man, meet, + mighty, + nephew, old, (+) people, + rebel, + robber, X servant born, X soldier, son, + spark, + steward, + stranger, X surely, them of, + tumultuous one, + valiant[-est], whelp, worthy, young (one), youth

A Son (Ben) is one who carries the character (Name) of His Father. Basically one who submits to his will. We see this in the Greek as well! "Teknon"Greek #5043 offspring, children
  1. child
  2. a male child, a son
  3. metaph.
    1. the name transferred to that intimate and reciprocal relationship formed between men by the bonds of love, friendship, trust, just as between parents and children
    2. in affectionate address, such as patrons, helpers, teachers and the like employ: my child
    3. in the NT, pupils or disciples are called children of their teachers, because the latter by their instruction nourish the minds of their pupils and mould their characters
    4. children of God: in the OT of "the people of Israel" as especially dear to God, in the NT, in Paul's writings, all who are led by the Spirit of God and thus closely related to God
Acts 3:26 (Kjv- son/ Nkjv- servant)
- "paheece" #3816-
a boy (as often beaten with impunity), or (by analogy) a girl, and (generally) a child; specifically a slave or servant (especially a minister to a king; and by eminence to God): - child, maid (-en), (man) servant, son, young man.

A son of God is to say one who submits to God. Example: his messengers. Rom.8:14/ Matt 5:9

It's in Messiah that the character of Israel (Prince of God/inheritance) is established.



Throughout the Word we are given examples of acknowledgement of one son when we know there is more than one physical son. In each of these examples the one not acknowledged has been sent away and a seperation been made.



Cain & Able (twins)

Cain did not honor his relations with YHVH. Cain's fruits reflected his pride and selfishness. When it came time for harvest of fruits Cain did not recieve a blessing cause he did not bless The Father (YHVH)/ Gen.4:5,7/, and was sent awayfrom his presence (Gen.4:16)

Cain was not acknowledged as the inheritor of Adam, rather only acknowledged as the indvidual who slew Able when Adam's line of inheritance was listed in Gen.4:24- Gen.5:32 (* Gen.5:4)



Isaac & Ishmael

Ishmael is obviously mentioned as a physical son of Abram. Abram was later called Abraham and recieved a seed of promise from the LORD Isaac. Sarah had Abraham send Ishmael and his mother (Hagar) away. This cut out any inheritance Ishmael would have claimed from Abraham according to the promise that was in Isaac (Gen.17:15-21). (Ishmael was blessed and said to be considered a wild man whose hand would be against every man and every man's hand against him/ These are not attributes needed for the blessing and promise passed to Isaac and Israel)



Heb.11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son





Israel & Mashiach (echad)/Son Of God



Messiah is called the only begotten son of God

Zech.12:10/ Is.9:6-7/ Jn.3:16,18/ Jn.1:18/ 1 Jn.4:9/ Heb.1:5/ Heb.5:5/

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1 Jn.5:5/ 1 Jn.4:15/ Gal.2:20/ Heb.4:14/ Eph.4:13/ Gal.4:4/ Matt.27:54/ 1 Cor.1:9/ 2 Cor.1:19/.....



Spiritual Israel!

Gal.3:24-29/ 1 Jn.3:2/ Philippians 2:15/ Gal.4:6-7/ Rom.8:14



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Within the culture of Israel the firstborn was to recieve the inheritance, yet in these examples this isnt the case. We have another example of this as well.



Jacob (Israel) & Esau (twins)

Gen.25:23 And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger. (Rom.9:12)



Esau like Cain was more interested in his earthly pleasures than in pleasing the Father YHVH. This was evident when he sold his birth right to Jacob. Jacob recieved the inheritance of the first born as The prophacy had proclaimed. When one refuses to acknowledge YHVH he has no reason to acknowledge them either when it comes to his blessings. Afterall we are created for his pleasure (Rev.4:11), therefore its important to take notice if we are in fact pleaseing The Father. Matt.20:16




Suggested follow up blogs:

Abraham & Isaac

Passover

Biblical Christmas

David


Jn.8:31-47

31Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;

32And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

33They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

34Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

35And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.

36If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

37I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

38I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

39They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

40But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

41Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

42Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

43Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

45And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

46Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

..........................................................................Recap:

In the Hebrew culture "1st born" son = The great inheritance

The examples given above of a later son being called the "only (begotten) son" goes to show the one worthy of the great inheritance.



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I also want to consider Dan.7&8

Key words:

Israel- prince of El (again showing inheritance/ and again Israel is also considered in the femine as the bride of Messiah and we know that two become echad (ONE) in marriage)

Kingdom- King and dominion



Now lets look at:

Dan 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand

The Prince of Princes is the king of Israel (Massiah) of which David called Lord (Ps.110:1)



Dan7:25-27

And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him



Israel recieves the inheritance of God through their king and thus both are the inheritors thereof. (If some find Daniel on this subject complex just put it on a shelf)

(Matt.2:4-6)


In relation to islam:  Muslims are simpley Ignorant of what son of G-d even means. "Son" in the Hebrew ("Ben") carries with it the meaning - builder of the house, one who carries the Character of the Father (figurative relationship/branch as to appoint, annoint, (worthy)... Muslims are stuck in a limited mindset that is also fixed in arabic. To say Messiah came not to do his own will but rather the will of The Father is the same as to say he is the (a) Son of God. This concept is carried over into the NT as well. Rom.8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. Islam lacks spiritual eyes and ears. Question: If Yeshua (or fake Yeshua- "Isa") is phy. born of a virgin and had no phy dad then who is his Father? Well logically we would conclude that the only concept of Father to this one would be The Most High. To say Christ is the Son of God is the same as saying he is a messenger, prophet, .... However Messiah is greater than all the prophets cause they speak of him and He is The Word (hand) of YHVH. Anyone who denies that Messiah is lead of(Son of/ Messenger of) the Father is anti Messiah (Christ) and thus such people also deny the Father (1 Jn.2:22/ 1 Jn.4:3/ 2 Jn.1:7) Such people will know Messiah reigns in due time and lest they submit (return to/ repent) to the will of The Most High they shall come under judgement.


Is.9:6 relates back to Is.7:14 where the son being born unto us is prophetic! Not only goes Torah (Gen) confirm this in relation to zera (seed) of the WOMAN, but the NT reveals that the more broad Almah doesnt rule out phy virgin while it doesnt spacifically mean it , it is to be exspected.

There are those that have contempt for Messiah that read Is.9 not relating it to these other areas for proper context and then they get to Is.6 and claim its speaking in present tense as if that rules out any chance of it being prophetic.
Its called a Prolepsis................ to speak in present tense in relation to future event. EXAMPLES: Prolepsis (Ampliatio); or Anticipation (Heb.2:8). Anticipating what is going to be , and speaking of future things as present./// Prolepsis (occupatio); or Anticipation, Answering an arguement by anticipating it before it is used. (1) Open, When the anticipated objection is both answered and stated (Matt.3:9) (2) Closed. When the anticipated objection is either not plainly stated or not answered (Rom.10:18).......
--------------Those in Covenant are sons of God------------------------

Jn.1:12-13 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
1 Jn.2:28-29;3:1 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming. If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him./ 31 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. (Gal.3:26-29)
Rom.8:14,16 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God

(Notes: Yeshua / Blessed is he who comes in the name of The Lord!Ps.118:26/ Matt.21:9; 23:39/.... Is.9:6 -his shem/...  Jn.8:12/Jn.12:35-36/ 1 Jn.2:28-29/ 1 Jn.3:1/...  Eph.4:4-6/ 2 Cor.6:17...Rev.1:8;21:6-7; 22:13,14,20/ Is.44:6/... Jn.3:31 ... Mal.2:10...Is.28:29 .... Phil.2:6-7/ 1 Tim.2:5/Heb.1:1-4/ Matt.1:23/Is.7:14/Jn.1:1,14/ Col.1:19; 2:9-10 All that was needed for the fulfillments during that advent/ ... (As the Father and Yeshua are one we also shall be one/ in Spirit)